Showing posts with label debate. Show all posts
Showing posts with label debate. Show all posts

Sunday, October 8, 2017

Thinking outside the debate parameters imposed by others…



Thinking outside the debate parameters imposed by others…



By Cornel Razor – 10/7/2017




If you believe the Constitution and Bill of Rights protect our right to defend ourselves from each other only, this is not for you…


If we frame the debate, we control the outcome and even most of the responses. The media and those fearful of liberty who seek only security have created the parameters within which we are allowed to discuss arms in America.


“My dad had three bolt action rifles and a 22 and a shotgun. We never needed anything more than that.”
Debate parameters – hunting. Why would anyone need more than a bolt action or a 22?


“Who needs a 30 round mag to stop a burglar?”
Debate parameters – self defense in a home environment.


“The only people who have high capacity mags and military style semi-auto black rifles are those who fear the government.”
Debate parameters – military type weapons = militant anti-government types.


“This isn’t about gun control, it is about sensible regulations.”
Debate parameters – The federal govt has the responsibility to enact sensibly proper gun regulations.


“The Moments of Silence in the House have become an abomination. God will ask you, ‘How did you keep my children safe?’ Silence.”
Debate parameters – God wants government to regulate weapons.


“Until we face down the gun lobby and have the spine to take the steps necessary to protect our families, there is blood on our hands.”
Debate parameters – The gun lobby is rendering our families unprotected.


Thus, the national discussion of arms control goes. With the debate so directed, one cannot hope to bring constitutional essence to the table without being branded a vicious supporter of the murder of innocents. Any support for arms freedoms is treated with disdain at the least escalating to horrified calls for retribution on the other end.

Now let’s frame the debate using 1776-1789 parameters and the words of the founders themselves. (Note, because of the plethora of founding statements regarding the natural right to bear arms, we will use only a few selected quotes)


Distilling the debate parameters to a few statements is difficult but I postulate the following and I believe these are true to both the letter and the spirit of the times:


We have just come through a long bloody war with Great Britain, a State that began the process of subjugating us with onerous rules and regulations mandating forced purchases and creating and expanding debilitating taxes.


This process culminated in an attempt to deprive us of our military arms and render us powerless to resist tyranny. We must create a permanent document giving certain powers to a new national government while giving careful attention to preventing anything like this from ever happening again. The people must be sovereign and have their God-given natural rights protected and safeguarded by creating many protections. These protections will guard unalienable personal rights by dividing the national power among several branches and by maintaining the jurisdictional sovereignty of the States in every area not delegated to the national government.

The ability of the people to restrain the national government should it attempt to escape the strictures imposed upon it must be surely guarded by no delegation of power to the national government over arms whatsoever.


I believe those statements get at the heart of the purposes of the founders and when the debate is thus encompassed with the founding – time immemorial principles, the responses will be markedly different than today’s nonsensical rhetoric. It is important that we repair to the document containing the protections, the constitution itself and the surrounding documents of the times:

“On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” (Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322)


Here then is such discussion within the parameters thus described:

There is no national permission to regulate weapons per the tendency of states to gravitate to tyranny if unrestrained.
Debate parameters – 2nd Amendment; newspaper articles of the day, debates of the constitutional convention.

• “The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been recognized by the General Government; but the best security of that right after all is, the military spirit, that taste for martial exercises, which has always distinguished the free citizens of these States….Such men form the best barrier to the liberties of America” – (Gazette of the United States, October 14, 1789.)

• “…to disarm the people – that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380)

• “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States” (Noah Webster in ‘An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution’, 1787, a pamphlet aimed at swaying Pennsylvania toward ratification, in Paul Ford, ed., Pamphlets on the Constitution of the United States, at 56 (New York, 1888))


The people by natural right must be able to defend against both local and national threats and have the weaponry to facilitate both. (Oh my, let the hand wringing begin!)
Debate parameters – Debates of the constitutional convention, debates of the several states, The Federalist, newspaper articles of the day.

• “What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty…. Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.” (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ I Annals of Congress at 750 August 17, 1789])

• “Americans have the right and advantage of being armed – unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)

• “the ultimate authority … resides in the people alone,” (James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights, in Federalist Paper #46.)

• “…but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights…” (Alexander Hamilton speaking of standing armies in Federalist 29.)

• “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” (Tench Coxe in ‘Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution’ under the Pseudonym ‘A Pennsylvanian’ in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1)

• “Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people” (Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788)

• “Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?” (Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in the Several State Conventions 45, 2d ed. Philadelphia, 1836)

Of course there is much more and I have neglected to treat each objection at the beginning of this paper individually because the general answers and quotes provided, clearly show the intent of the founders. No prohibitions of arms were contemplated in the newly formed nation consisting of the united States.


We contemplate restrictions, or should I say more of them today, we do so at the peril of succumbing to an oppressive regime the likes of which has not yet arisen. Those elected to the offices that consider such restrictions have no constitutional powers to enact those restrictions. To the contrary, the elected who threaten our liberties today are violating their oaths of office wherein they solemnly pledged to protect and support the very document they daily abrogate.




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Saturday, February 11, 2017

Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) delivers remarks on the U.S. Senate



Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) delivers remarks on the U.S. Senate



February 9


Mitch McConnell’s decision to silence Elizabeth Warren on the Senate floor earlier this week drew massive media attention — and outrage among partisans of all stripes.


By contrast, few people paid much attention to the speech Florida Sen. Marco Rubio gave in the aftermath of the shushing of Warren. They should.






Rubio’s speech was a plea for civility in the Senate, a warning that if civilized debate dies in the Senate, it will die in the broader society too. It’s an important address — and one well worth spending eight minutes of your life listening to.


A few lines that really stood out to me:



“I don’t know of a civilization in the history of the world that’s been able to solve its problems when half the people in a country absolutely hate the other half of the people in that country.”




“We are becoming a society incapable of having debate anymore.”




“We are reaching a point in this republic where we are not going to be able to solve the simplest of issues because everyone is putting themselves in a corner where everyone hates everybody.”




“What’s at stake here tonight … is not simply some rule but the ability of the most important nation on earth to debate in a productive and respectful way the pressing issues before it.”



It’s easy, of course, to roll your eyes at Rubio. He, of course, is someone of considerable political ambition. And Rubio clearly believes it is in his long-term best interests to establish himself as a voice for civility and reasoned debate during his time in the Senate.


But simply because Rubio is a politician doesn’t mean that what he says should be dismissed out of hand. What Rubio is reacting to is something I hear time and time again when I talk to people about politics. When did “reasonable people can disagree” stop being something we believed in? Why can’t genuine debate not descend into name-calling? Why is confrontation the only way the two parties — and their leading politicians — seem to interact these days?




Read more at the Washington Post


Photo credit: Radio Metafora

Sunday, October 30, 2016

Did Hillary Clinton Cheat At The Debate? (VIDEO)

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I know the debate was a couple of weeks ago, but I just came across this video that certainly makes a good case for the fact that someone may have been feeding her answers, statistics, and information. If she can’t even ad lib a televised debate against Donald Trump, how are negotiations with foreign powers going to go when someone takes away her tablet or other telepromptish device?


Not only did Trump win the last debate, he won it without reading the answers and information that someone else was feeding him.


Really, with Hillary Clinton, is there any type of dishonesty that seems too far-fetched?


See for yourself and let me know in the comments what you think.



 



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Thursday, October 13, 2016

Evidence Surfaces That “DNC Chair Fed Questions to Hillary Campaign in Advance”

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This article was written by Melissa Dykes and originally published at The Daily Sheeple.


Editor’s Comment: Can this be considered a fair election anymore? No. This is an inside job, and that does not qualify as an election. People need to come to terms with that first. There was no legitimate victory in the DNC nomination; as it stands, there is no reason to disbelieve that Trump is a ringer for Hillary, or that the established powers will not rigged, beg, borrow or steal the election to “correct” the mistake of the electorate. Regardless of the outcome, the ethics and pretend demeanor of rightful, constitutional power and election of the president are dead. THIS IS NOT A REAL ELECTION… just a Banana Republic, or whatever else you want to call it.


Not only is the system itself broken beyond repair. Not only is the electoral process rigged to favor the dug in, sold out, blood oath establishment candidates. Not only do the dynasties control the parties and dictate the outcomes. But… but even the trimmings of “democracy” and “voting” and “debates” and “public discourse” are so heavily manipulated by the corporate media that the path Hillary took to the presidency appears legitimate on the surface, while just behind the curtain, the entire seasons has been scripted according to the rules of reality TV – fitting, of course, as it stars the king of reality shows, and as it parades a drama that is meant to suggest qualification and appropriate vetting allowing egregious crimes & misdemeanors are above reproach, and impossible to check & balance.


Hillary will go down in the history books, either as the most corrupt and ambitious title holder in American history, or as the white washed, iconic woman president, appropriate for office, trained for power and set in stones, monuments, statues and portraits from now to kingdom-come in CNN & TIME-magazine illustrated “histories” about the progress of America and control over society by Her. Long live big sister.


Even More Cheating: Email Proves Interim DNC Chair Fed Town Hall Questions to Hillary in Advance


by Melissa Dykes


The media is in overdrive trying to ignore the death by a thousand cuts wealth of info falling out of the Wikileaks Podesta email dumps.


Now, on top of everything else (which is saying a lot), it has also come out that interim DNC chair Donna Brazile likely obtained questions to a Bernie Sanders vs. Hillary CNN/TV One town hall and fed them to Hillary’s campaign people in advance.


CNN, of course, is pointing the fingers at TV One but come on, they don’t call it the Clinton News Network for nothing.


According to Politico,



The email obtained by POLITICO was written by town hall co-moderator Roland Martin on the day of the town hall to CNN producers. But it shows him using word for word the language of a question that Brazile appeared to have sent to the Clinton campaign a day earlier. That email, from Brazile to the campaign, was included in yesterday’s release of hacked emails by Wikileaks of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta.



The exact question, word-for-word, was tossed around between all of these people in the lead up to the town hall, and then a paraphrased version of it magically popped out of the mouth of an audience member introduced by Martin who asked the question to Hillary at the town hall.


Everyone is dodging this bullet, including Brazile, Martin, CNN, and TV One. When asked about it, Martin first claimed he never shared anything but when confronted with the emails, he admitted sharing them with CNN. Brazile is tossing her blame back at the Russian government who she says everyone knows is responsible for the Wikileaks hacks in order to ‘interfere with our election’.


If that’s true, which most people don’t believe it is, then the Russian government has done us a favor by showing the American people plainly and simply that we do not have even remotely fair elections in this country.


This has openly been the most obviously cheated, rigged, stolen, fraudulent, fake election possibly in the history of American politics.


The sad part is so much evidence has come out now that the entire thing deserves a do-over that in a sane world, that would already be happening. Instead, Hillary is still stomping her way toward the White House with full knowledge that no amount of disclosure of her misdeeds can stop her.


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